Union Bay Improvement District Board Meeting shows examples of meeting Decorum Union Bay Style…..

Union Bay Improvement District Board Meeting gives examples of meeting Decorum

My neighbour and I watched the Union Bay Improvement District meeting of September 19th.

https://union-bay.ca/board-minutes/  all 1Hr. and 38 minutes and 38 seconds.

We now can understand why  Paul Healey has decided to resign as Chair.

The Record https://www.comoxvalleyrecord.com/news/union-bay-improvement-district-board-lacks-chair/

Union Bay Improvement District Chair resigns as Chair and Trustee

WOW just learned that Paul Healey the newly elected Chair and trustee has resigned effective immediately. Apparently the last meeting September 19, 2019 of the Union Bay Improvement was the straw that broke the camels back. The meeting was just under two hours and was taped, lets hope the landowners will be able to view the taped video or will this video tape be lost, edited or ????

Update September 25th, 2019 11:00am, from Trustee Kaljur stating she received a email from Paul Healey stating that he will stay on as a trustee and Trustee Vandenburg will take over as Chair

Union Bay Falls Back

My neighbour asked when was the first day of Fall, I explained “It may still be hot outside, but the first day of fall is upon us. Autumn begins in the Northern Hemisphere on Monday, Sept. 23. That’s the day of the Autumnal Equinox, one of two days when the sun is located just above the Earth’s equator and day and night are roughly equal.

Further; In 2019, the equinox occurs at the same moment worldwide; your clock time depends on your time zone (3:50 a.m. EDT, 2:50 a.m. CDT, 1:50 a.m. MDT and 12:50 a.m. PDT).

After the autumnal equinox, the sun is rising later, and nightfall comes sooner. This ends with the December solstice, when days start to grow longer and nights shorter.

Note that fall foliage isn’t due to current weather conditions. This is a common misconception. Leaves change color because of the amount of daylight and photosynthesis.

Fall also brings some wonderful holidays, including Halloween and Thanksgiving, which carry us through the season until temperatures begin to drop, nights begin to get longer, and all the woodland critters start storing up for the long haul of winter

And don’t forget about the end of Daylight Saving Time, when we “fall” back, setting our clocks back one hour and regaining an hour of precious sleep!

Remember Clocks FALL Back;

Nov 3, 2019 – Daylight Saving Time Ends

When local daylight time is about to reach
Sunday, November 3, 2019, 2:00:00 am clocks are turned backward 1 hour to
Sunday, November 3, 2019, 1:00:00 am local standard time instead. Sunrise and sunset will be about 1 hour earlier on Nov 3, 2019 than the day before. There will be more light in the morning

Union Bay Improvement District, Point of order Mr. Chair, point of order, point of order.

My neighbour went to the September 19, 2019 Union Bay improvement District monthly meeting. During the meeting Chair Healey was inundated by points of order.

So, I decided to get some answers on Rogers rule of order….

Rules are put in place to protect members’ rights, and when the rules aren’t followed, those rights can get trampled. Fortunately, Robert’s Rules says that any member who notices a breach of the rules has a right to call immediate attention to the fact and insist that the rules be enforced by raising a point of order.

If you notice a breach of the rules, especially if that breach impinges on your rights or the rights of other members, you rise — quickly, mind you, even if you interrupt a speaker, or you’ll be too late — and say, “Point of order, Madam President!” or “Madam President, I rise to a point of order!”

When you’re recognized, you state your reasons for thinking your organization’s rules aren’t being followed correctly. The president, hopefully, recognizes the validity of your point and goes back to following the rules.

Sometimes, however, the point being raised is not as clear as whether a member’s motion is being handled correctly. The point of order may, for example, be that a proposed amendment is not germane to the main motion. In that case, the chair may reasonably be in doubt (or may just prefer to let the assembly decide the point in the interest of harmony). If that’s the case, she responds, “The chair is in doubt on the member’s point. All those who consider the amendment germane will say aye . . . Opposed, no . . . The ayes have it and the amendment is germane.”

A point of order

  • Can interrupt a speaker who has the floor.
  • Doesn’t need to be seconded.
  • Isn’t debatable.
  • Can’t be amended.
  • Is decided by the chair.


 It is obvious that the meeting is not following proper rules. • Without recognition, “I rise to a point of order,” or “Point of order.”


 You are wondering about some of the facts under discussion, such as the balance in the treasury when expenditures are being discussed. • Without recognition, “Point of information.”

 POINT OF PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY  You are confused about some of the parliamentary rules. • Without recognition, “Point of parliamentary inquiry.”

Hope that helps…

Ruling on a Point of Order

The Chair has the duty to preserve order and decorum and to decide any matter of procedure that may arise. In addition, the Chair decides questions of order once they arise and not in anticipation. Though raised on a point of order, hypothetical queries on procedure cannot be addressed to the Chair

When a point of order is raised, the chair attempts to rule on the matter immediately. However, if necessary, the chair may take the matter under advisement and come back to the later with a formal ruling. The chair may also allow discussion on the point of order before coming to a decision. Once the decision is rendered, the matter is no longer open to debate or discussion and the ruling cannot be appealed.

Union Bay leaking Water Closet(Toilet)

My neighbour wasn’t getting much sleep. The toilet off the master bedroom keeps refilling and making noise. He asked if I new a good plumber, so I answered what’s good mean to you, just kidding, he didn’t think it was funny.

I asked the following questions; first do you know where the water shut off valve to the toilet is? No, he replied. Do you know where the main water shut off valve to your home is. NO, he replied… I then said here is a few phone numbers of a reputable plumbers in Courtenay and Comox.

If he had said yes to any of the two questions I would have….. suggested food colouring

Union Bay Landowners starting to ask, WHATS THE HOLDUP!

From: https://unionbay.news.blog/2019/09/09/letter-posted-ball-in-cvrd-court/

Union Bay has a newly elected CVRD Area A Director Daniel Arbour. It may be in the landowner’s interest to let him know what becoming a service area means to them. For me, personally, conversion to CVRD means a stable accountable local government, access to Municipal Financing (approx. 2% below prime) and Infrastructure Grant monies.

Contact link for Daniel Arbour CVRD Area A director

Daniel Arbour Baynes Sound – Denman / Hornby Islands (Electoral Area ‘A’)
5530 Seawright Road Hornby Island, BC V0R 1Z0
(250) 650-8480 (C) reachme@danielarbour.ca


From a landowner to Union Bay Improvement District Chair

We are quite concerned to learn that the UBID Board has not yet approached the CVRD to request the District to agree to examine whether Union Bay becomes a service area as suggested in the Ministry’s letter of August 30, 2019.   Although the Province has responded it is our experience that no action will be taken without further endorsement and encouragement from the Board and community.  A letter is needed from the Improvement District directed to the CVRD requesting their willingness to accept doing a study to transfer services.   Further, Chair Healy should be in touch with Daniel Arbour, Area Director personally to obtain his support?

As time is quickly passing this matter needs to be pushed forward.  Time is of the essence for April 2020 is not too far away.

Another Landowner

Good afternoon Chair Healey,

My understanding is the Union Bay Improvement District COW (community of the Whole) meeting September 12th, 2019 went well under the guidance of yourself. The Administer CEO Mason was a no show and you were left with the task of taking minutes of a 1hr and 47 minute meeting.

Many landowners cannot attend meetings and my understanding is the meetings are to be Video taped. Bylaw 270. This will be of some interest to landowners and something the yourself and Trustees will want to address.

My questions are;

Will all public meetings where the public can attend be Video taped? If not, why not.

Why is CEO Mason not required to attend meetings in public?

Union Bay Improvement District Water low pressure because….

My wife asked why the water pressure is low, after a quick check the normal pressure to my house is 85psi, today showing 35psi on my in-house water gauge.

Union Bay improvement District Water low pressure because….

A quick call to Dan McGill water superintendent and he informed me the final tie-ins to the new water treatment plant are being connected today and that Union Bay is using CVRD water connection. The pressure will remain low for most of the day.

My understanding is that there is a 2 inch pipe connection near Spindrift Rd. that connects Royston/CVRD water in case of emergency.

Emergency Response
& Contingency Plan
for UBID’s Water Source and Supply System

Contingency Plan From
UBID is connected to the Royston Water System at the north end of
Kilmarnock. This is a water source from the Village of Cumberland, Allan Lake,
with the maintenance of the distribution network being the responsibility of
the Comox Valley Regional District. An agreement to connect UBID to this
system is in place.

Bylaw No. 233 Interconnection Agreement, 2011
States that this “bylaw to authorize the execution of an agreement with CVRD”
and an agreement was signed in 2011 between UBID and the CVRD.

Union Bay the sound of silence

Our 5-year-old dishwasher bit the dust, we bought a new one that we relocated. When I installed the dishwasher onto the outlet just above the sink P-trap we heard a lot of noise during the drain cycle.

I have a remedy for that.

The installation of a separate P-Trap. Quick run to Home Depot, 15 dollars worth of parts and voilà the sound of silence…

Just that simple…

Union Bay Improvement District Letter from CVRD Marijke Edmondson Director, Governance Structures

Copied from the letter

“I can appreciate the desire to explore incorporation, particularly given the close outcome of the incorporation vote in 2006 and the remaining interest that some of the community may have in this option. An incorporation study process is, however, a major endeavor and it is not unreasonable for process establishment, preliminary analysis, public examination and engagement to take more than year, after which comes consideration of whether to proceed to a vote for incorporation.

In order to proceed with planning for a study, the Ministry will need an indication that the Electoral Area Director and the Comox Valley Regional District (CVRD) Board are prepared to take a leadership role in the study.”

The original letter can be found on the UBID Web site on the news link



What can you do? Contact CVRD Area A Director Daniel Arbour